My Special Yell Thing: So, apparently Catman’s bi. Yay for him, and for bi readers now…
So, apparently Catman’s bi.
Yay for him, and for bi readers now slightly more represented in comics (as it were, considering Catman’s still under the radar…
Well, again, this is very thoughtful stuff and I appreciate the kind words. I don’t think you’re being nitpicky at all, these are fair points. I disagree with a couple and a couple I have to mark down to missed opportunities, which ultimately is always going to be the fault of the creative team, including editorial.
Possibly my favorite thing about doing Volume II, which was fraught with editorial disagreements and artist problems (many of which were unfortunately unavoidable, like unexpected illnesses), was getting to finally put Savant and Creote together in canon. It was a similar thing to what I’ve said with Catman…I knew they were supposed to end up together, but the space wasn’t there in my last few issues of Volume I to show it. So I was really happy to tell that story even if, in retrospect, I would have made some adjustments.
Let me just bullet point your other comments a little bit, if that’s cool. Again, I think these are fair observations.
I think Creote was established as having loyalty to Savant, mostly. Savant wanted to try to make good with Canary and Oracle, and Creote had the connections in Russia, so that meant he was a good operative for that mission. He did it because Savant asked him to.
The one thing I still disagree with is Scandal. I still don’t see how showing her love life and sex life is really a problem…we didn’t show her as pandering to the male gaze, her relationships with Kay and Liana were never about the straight male gaze in any particular sense. It was just that she was the romantic of the group. She says she’s gay explicitly twice, I think, the rest is just story and her character, and I think many of her most memorable moments are non-romantic, such as her relationship with Bane.
I guess that bit puzzles me a little, to be honest. I agree that it would have been nice to see more of Creote and Savant together on panel, even as supporting characters, but I’m not sure I see what having Scandal’s romantic life getting less screen time would do that’s positive.
As part of that, I also disagree a little that we haven’t been reminded of other sixers’ sexuality, even if they didn’t have as much of a romantic turn as Scandal. Floyd’s heterosexuality came up often, as did Bane’s desire for Spencer.
The odd thing for me, and this isn’t about your post, but, man, since this book started, I’ve been hearing about the clear romantic vibe between Floyd and Blake, just endlessly. I found it all charming and amusing, I never denied it, it’s mentioned in many, maybe most of the reviews and commentaries. I don’t think ‘bromance’ covers it…it’s clear that Floyd and Blake care more about each other than they are comfortable admitting and sometimes, they seem almost obsessed with each other. I think that subtext has always been there like a neon sign…but Black and Lawton aren’t really any good about talking about their feelings, and Blake, who is the superhothot dude of the group, has never really expressed much in the way of his feelings sexually in the book for ANYONE but Huntress, so she is looming large in his sex life, which excludes others. Jeannette is in the same boat—she’s bisexual, but her obsession right now is Floyd. But she TALKS more about what she wants than Blake, so we at least had oblique reference to her openness to relationships with other women (which we see in her hatred/attraction with Amazons).
I talked about Deadshot’s reaction if Blake had come out to him on another thread—my initial thought was, yeah, Lawton would probably have some shock. Then I thought, no no no, it’s much more Lawton if he already knows and could not care less. It’s not that he’s so enlightened, it’s that he genuinely doesn’t give a shit what other people do because he’s not a hypocrite. Of all the Six, Blake is probably the one least likely to show his feelings, even more so than Lawton. I always felt the ‘Secret’ Six meant secret as in personal, not secret as in covert.
My opinion is that Blake is fired by an animal impulse, he wants what he wants, he doesn’t care what Lawton or anyone else things, and when someone gives off the scent, he responds in an animal way. His feelings for Huntress hurt and confuse him, they take him out of his own control. He doesn’t like it, he resents it. But he still pursues it.
This is starting to sound a little inside, but that was the approach I had for the characters. I don’t know if it’s obvious but I MISS WRITING THE SECRET SIX. :)
Anyway, fun comments, thank you for giving me the opportunity to present what was in my head at the time. I agree, again, with the idea that it would have been lovely to show Creote and Savant in their downtime. And you’re right, they did become very popular supporting characters…Savant was originally supposed to die in the first arc he appeared in but he immediately struck a chord and Creote followed soon after. The dichotomy was that giving two guys lots of page time in the ONLY successful female team superhero book in DC and Marvel history seemed like it would be doing a disservice to the core team, as well. The perils of a team book are always about balance and panel time!